שיחת משתמש:ManosHacker

welcome

Hi, welcome to Hebrew Wikipedia. Can you please explain what are you trying to do with all the templates you are creating?

בורה בורה, IKhitron, please advise if they should be moved to personal user space? אמא של גולן - שיחה 10:59, 26 במאי 2018 (IDT)

Hello בורה בורה, IKhitron, אמא של גולן this tool is for building articles based on article template libraries and handles sandbox pages of user centralized inside his sandbox. The initial installation had to be in template space and it can be moved to user space now that debugging has finished, according to the community's wishes. Videos for its usage are being prepared. In the next steps we will start moving parts of the project to javascript code. If you wish to explore it you just add a + inside your sandbox page like this {{טיוטה פרטית+}} --ManosHacker - שיחה 11:38, 26 במאי 2018 (IDT)

Any alterations you make to the Hebrew Wikipedia must be approved by it's community. You cannot start tempring with our code without a dialog. You may use this page ויקיפדיה:מזנון
in order to start explaining what are you doing and by who's authority. גארפילד - שיחה - עזרו לנו במיזם האסם 13:00, 26 במאי 2018 (IDT)

Templates are wikipedia helping pages governed by being bold and consensus policy. I will gladly move the toolkit to another space, if this is the right thing to do in this wiki. Please instruct me to the page where templates are discussed to be included or not in public space, as well as the policy page on this to study it. Is it this page?. I will have the tutorial videos ready within 2 days from now. Thank you, --ManosHacker - שיחה 14:16, 26 במאי 2018 (IDT)

Hello, everyone. Well, I checked the new templates, and their enwiki versions. I still do not understand what exactly does this system - there is no manual anywhere I could find. In enwiki, all the links to tl:sandbox+ are from user space and Village Pump only. Looks like it should help the users to create and to manage the new article drafts, using thematical templates. I saw the enwiki ones, and I am not so sure it can help somehow in hewiki, because we do not have a straight fixed structure for our articles, it changes depends on the article size. I saw that Muriel was very excited from the system, so I'm pretty sure it is hurmless. But I can't say if we need it, and if we can use it, before I know the details. Anyway, it should be approved on the VP or on the TFD pages. Calling also Eranroz and Kipod for futher discussion. יגאל (בקשת עזרה, IKhitron ושיחה) 17:21, 26 במאי 2018 (IDT)

In fact it is not harmless unless we eliminate the need for the user to add code to personal common.js in order to support hover highlighting (very assistive). I would appreciate it if the preload was locked, or, even better (and as already done in Greek and Arabic Wikipedia), the hover highlighting code was part of public common.js. --ManosHacker - שיחה 17:45, 26 במאי 2018 (IDT)

Manos, thank you for pushing new tools to help editors to get into editing in Wikipedia. I guess this may be especially useful for beginners and for Edithons.

hewiki already have somewhat old template library for articles which can be found in ויקיפדיה:יצירה על פי תבנית (template for person article, plant, bird, film and the last, which is probably not relevant for this case is template for template). You may use them as basis for templates (e.g instead of the links in תבנית:Article templates/libraries/main), or ask someone to help you translate new templates. Keep in mind that machine translated templates (such as Template:Article templates/generic article) are very poorly written.

Once you believe this is ready to be presented for the community, please open a discussion in our village pump (ויקיפדיה:מזנון) and explain the motivation, and how would you advise us to adapt it - for example, you may suggest us to modify MediaWiki:Gadget-mySandbox.js and replace the preload with something similar to משתמש:ManosHacker/טיוטה.

Thanks, Eranroz 18:29, 26 במאי 2018 (IDT)

Dear Eranroz and everyone, here is the english help with videos on how to use the tool as a simple user and as an editathon instructor

תבנית:טיוטה פרטית+.

Its power will reveal when libraries will be built. Keep article templates structure simple to assist newcomers.

--ManosHacker - שיחה 20:13, 29 ביוני 2018 (IDT)

As the project haven't gain adaption/participation and the templates aren't used and appear in various maintenance reports, they were deleted. However, if you or anyone else would like to rework on it, please don't hesitate to ask me or other sysops (ויקיפדיה:בקשות ממפעילים) to help with restoring the pages or importing up to date pages from enwiki (or other wiki). Thanks, ערן - שיחה 21:51, 30 בינואר 2019 (IST)